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Finding Paradise

and to pretend that everything is okay, just to convince ourselves not to break, is the most painful lie that exists because paradise is gone, and we're still here.

Finding paradise

I’ve written hundreds of thousands of words,
created a safe haven for my sanity,
to tell myself that every single memory
doesn’t need an answer to the question of why,

Everyone says that it gets better,
and I do believe that it doesn’t get worse.
but every time you find a place to be happy
we find other things that will captivate our eye

I’m not a kid anymore, I’ve been alive for almost 7300 days now.
and I still haven’t figured out what it is to be truly me,
because turning pages is different than turning a new leaf,
you can’t live anew, you have to go on.

even if you’re sad, or unhappy
you can’t just wish to disappear,
as if you’ve never felt being happy like,
all the almosts and maybes,

because it never gets easy. nothing does,
we tend to panic every time we’re unhappy
and we’re everything that we never wanted to be,
just because we want to be happy

and to pretend that everything is okay,
just to convince ourselves not to break,
is the most painful lie that exists
because paradise is gone, and we’re still here.

 

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  1. The self is being describe as a new person just like Socrates initiated understanding thy self one must know his / her goal in order to achive it and be happy

  2. John Rey Dungca ACT 184 . Socratic Method because it brings a person’s latent ideas into clear consciousness. or simply what she feels or thinks is what she does.

  3. The self is like a new person that needs to adopt with every possible change, just like socrates initiated we should know our self so we can achieve our goal easily

  4. Socratic method by Socrates.

    According to Spcrates, the Socratic Method is a way to seek truths by your own lights. I think the one way to know ourselves and the truth about ourselves is through our own.

  5. Socratice method by Socrates. According to Socrates the human life is supposed to be for one to achieve both personal and spiritual growth. An individual will be able to understand their true nature when they examine and reflect on the life they are living. It is important to refelct on our life to know our purpose, value and behavior. Therefore if we do not make time to understand our subconscious we will unconscious be living a repetitive life with no meaning.

  6. The Philosopher that involve in this poem is Socrates this poem talks about Knowing Thyself. The character in this oem don’t know himself that’s why he keeps on pretending.

  7. Socratic Method – Socrates
    This is a way of finding truth with your own lights. Meaning, you, yourself, has the responsibility to examine your own life to realize what kind of life you are living. We should help ourselves discover things about us, and in our lives in general.

  8. Ramos, Patricia Gwen Louise P. ACT184 – Socratic method by Socrates. This concept was manifested in this poem because it was about asking and trying hard to answer with the use of critical thinking. It was about self-examination which was Socrates’ main focus.

  9. Ramos, Patricia Gwen Louise P. ACT184 – Socratic method by Socrates. This concept was manifested in the poem because it was about asking an trying hard to answer with the use of critical thinking. It was about self-examination which was Socrates’ main focus.

  10. Socratic Method by Socrates— this method requires a critical thinking in order to seek the truth about ourselves in order for us to live a meaningful life.

  11. For me this poem embodied the philosophy of Rene Descartes of Cartesian Dualism and “I think therefore I am”. It is because as what the is author trying to say about pretending, it clearly shows that the mind could really influence the body, and the body can also influence the mind. I also agree with what Descartesis trying to say that the immaterial mind and the material body are two completely different types of substances and that they interact with each other. Wherein sometimes, what we are thinking and feeling could be shown differently by our pysical reactions and actions (pretentions). I also got to reflect through this poem, that whatever we think we are feeling, could really be how we are or really turn us to be like that ( I think therefore I am). If the author thinks that she is unhappy, then she will be really unhappy, for what you think influence how you act. Some says, be careful of your thoughts, for these become your words, words that could turn into actions and actions into habits, and habits into your destiny. That is why one thing I would like to say is that, we must be careful of what we are thinking aboutselves, for it could really turn us into that. Let us all think positive thoughts and spread positive vibes 🙂

    Princess Leah Banoy Act 184

  12. Princess Leah Banoy Act 184

    For me this poem embodied the philosophy of Rene Descartes of Cartesian Dualism and “I think therefore I am”. It is because as what the is author trying to say about pretending, it clearly shows that the mind could really influence the body, and the body can also influence the mind. I also agree with what Descartesis trying to say that the immaterial mind and the material body are two completely different types of substances and that they interact with each other. Wherein sometimes, what we are thinking and feeling could be shown differently by our pysical reactions and actions (pretentions). I also got to reflect through this poem, that whatever we think we are feeling, could really be how we are or really turn us to be like that ( I think therefore I am). If the author thinks that she is unhappy, then she will be really unhappy, for what you think influence how you act. Some says, be careful of your thoughts, for these become your words, words that could turn into actions and actions into habits, and habits into your destiny. That is why one thing I would like to say is that, we must be careful of what we are thinking aboutselves, for it could really turn us into that. Let us all think positive thoughts and spread positive vibes 🙂

  13. Ma. Alcyra Aira M. Santos- ACT184

    I think it is the Socrates method of Socrates. The subject in the poem which is one’s self is still in the process of knowing their own identity and I think the best way to know yourself is by your own means and by your own discovery. The subject of the poem manifested that the individual expected something else but it turns out that he/she is the other way around or in completely opposite.

  14. Keycie Ann Arevalo
    ACT 182

    Socratic method by Socrates.

    -According to Socrates, the socratic method is a way to seek truths by knowing your own. I think the one way to know ourselves and the truth about ourselves is to know first ourselves before others. Also, we know ourselves better rather than how anyone know us.

  15. Yeah, all of us are just prentending like we are totally fine or happy but the inner side we’re not but we need to live according to our family and friends and also I do believe that God has a plan for you just wait for His perfect timing and I wil assure you, you will never be sad or fell lonely.

    Socratic Method by Socrates

  16. The poem is leaning toward to the theory of “cogito ergo sum” or “I think therefore I am by Rene Descartes.

  17. The “self” in the poem was confused about defining who he/she is. He/She is in the process of knowing his/her self. It somehow potrays the concept of “Know Thyself” by Socrates.

  18. For me, the self being discussed in the poem was connected to the theory of Cartesian Dualism, which is a theory or system of thought that regards a domain of reality in terms of two independent principles, especially mind and matter. In the poem, I can see that he is confused in the aspects of life and just trying to accept everything besides it is between man and nature.

    ACT186

  19. Rene Descartes in his work “I think therefore I am” because the person in the poem realized who he really is.

  20. Looking for the best version of yourself wouldn’t be that fun and challenging without facing some problems and questions. Cartesian dualism- Rene Decartes

  21. Solitario, Keannah Rose: Socratic method because it involves critical thinking on discovering self.

  22. I think the poem is about understanding yourself and how will you live in the world full of ups and downs. The poem portrays the reality of life, that it is filled with hardships and challenges. Despite these hardships and challenges, one can still cope up and continue to live their lives to the fullest. It also addresses the battle between you and yourself because of the problems that life has. The poem is describing Socrates work “Know Thyself” which he said that “An unexamined life is not worth living.” It means that you should know yourself, your limits and your motivation in life. It is important to assess yourself before taking on any challenge life has to offer. Because life is not easy and life will test and challenge you.

  23. Socrates method, because we, as individual, can direct our physical body, and it’s up to us on how we can overcome our own emotions.

  24. Sapa, Rhia F.
    ACT- 184

    I think, this poem is an application of Socratic method or Know Thyself by Socrates. Because in this poem, the speaker or the author is doing a reflection of his self by enlightening and questioning, and examining the reality of life through himself.

  25. Socratic Method
    “Know Thyself” of Socrates
    Finding the truth with our own thoughts, realizations, and enlightenment. Reflecting is a great way for us to discover who we are, what we want, and why we are here, or simply, finding our purpose. It is important to examine our lives for us to move forward and continue living our lives with clear thoughts, perceptions, and directions.

  26. Self is shown like its is a new knowledge we learn from what we have done. Because everyday we learn new things about our selves on what our capabilities and limits. This poem used a socratic method because it is just we are asking our selves what we can do aside from what we did.

  27. the poem for me portrays that understanding and finding yourself is the best way to “find the paradise” in life. For me it displays the principle of the philosopher Socrates.

  28. ACT-182 Rav Dano., This finding Paradise is Connected to the philosopher whom is Socrates that telling of one’s Self, on how he/she knows his/her self

  29. Socratic method by Socrates. If we will think critically, we could seek for the truth. We are the only one who can truly know ourselves.

  30. VERGARA, LEILANIE M. ACT 186- In this poem, self is presented as dual with different thinking– which is the body and the mind that oppose each other. As can be seen, he implies that what we feel or what we think inside our mind is different from what we show. Therefore, the theory that embodies this poem is the Cartesian Dualism by Rene Descartes. Cartesian dualism is about the differences between the immaterial mind and the material body that interact with each other. Descartes said that the material body could be divided by its parts while the immaterial mind is indivisible. Therefore, our mind is uncontrollable while our body can be controlled by our mind.

  31. The persona in the poem is trying to let out some things on his mind. He is trying to reflect on the happenings on his life. Therefore, it can be related to cartesian dualism, where mind and body are separated and different. Perhaps he is trying to know himself by trying to connect to his mind and soul. No matter how humans can be good at envisioning how things are supposed to be it would still turn out to be different in reality.

  32. Cyrille Ann Dappit
    ACT 184

    Socratic Method by Socrates, because in analyzing the poem, you can eliminate the hypothesis that been used. As I can see there are arguments that can derive you by asking a question of how, why, what just to find what you seek. Socrates states that the truth can only seek by your own self, means that the reality can only seen by yourself if you totally open your mind and heart and accept what is real. You need to think critically and have a self examination to know you as your identity.

  33. It’s Cartesian Dualism by Descartes because sometimes what’s in our mind differs from the actions of our body and the things that surround us.

  34. Act-186
    I think it applies theSocratic Method because it brings a person’s ideas into clear consciousness. or simply what she feels or thinks is what she does.

  35. I believe that this is about the Socratic Method of socrates where in we have to give value on knowing ourselves and be able to overcome trials in our life because that what really makes our life. As what socrates have said. An unexamined life is not worth living. Everyone of us have our doubt to ourselves. We all try to make things more convenient for us but thewe have to learn that as long as we feel the pain of life we must know that we are already living life to the fullest because at the end of the day we were able to overcome things.

  36. In order to avoid suffering, the mind tends to lie to itself and be delusional of its identity, which pertains to its idealist perspective that Socrates has stated that of which the mind/soul directs its body to maintain identical sanity. Contracting its memories since infancy becoming blind about one’s self, as valued by memory theory.

  37. Socratic Method his “Know Thyself”. Using our own emotions, realizations and enlightenment to discover the truth. Reflecting is a perfect way for us to figure out who we are, what we want, and why we are here and know our mission.

  38. CIV 195

    For me it reflect to Cartesian Dualism. It is simply because archiving for you happiness will never stop. Eventually time past and you are still missing something.

  39. Daligcon, Kathleen Margaret F.
    CIV195

    -Cartesian Dualism by Rene Descartes. Since the author said from the last stanza, it represents that individual’s mind, separate from the body and the outside world, thinking about itself and its existence.

  40. Tuazon, Ervie Kate V.
    CIV 195

    – Socratic Method/Know Thyself by Socrates.

    “An unexamined life is not worth living” – Socrates

    We can tell that the author really examine how life works for him and there’s a part also in the poem where the author stated that “I still haven’t figured out what it is to be truly me,” questioning and continously asking yourself to resolve and get the answer is a part of Socratic Method that we should continue and never stop learning about ourselves because of the changes that might happen.

  41. CUYA, Johnthel G.
    CIV195

    Socratic Method is a concept that can be connected to this writing. Socratic method is knowing yourself and this piece is showing how he wanted to know more avout himself/herself but also knows how his life works and how hard his life is.

  42. Detera, Rochelle G. -CIV195
    Socratic method by Socrates
    It is important to know the essence and purpose of our life. Knowing thyself is a big factor in finding the truth, therein you will be more happy and it will captivate a positive mindset. Knowing oneself according to Socrates will lead us to our purpose and it will give us the wisdom to seek the truth whenever possible. In this line, “but every time you find a place to be happy, we find other things that will captivate our eye”, happiness is seen only by yourself and it will grow to more complex ideas that will be expected by our own eyes.

  43. DELA CRUZ, Mark Angelo D.
    CIV195

    The writer’s point of view wants to express that his self purpose is not only to deal with it but also to live with it. The author used a Socratic method, he keeps on making idea that counter his previous thoughts and finally come up to a certain conclusion about what he currently experienced.

  44. Navarro, Karrenmae DG.
    CIV195
    Socratic Method (Know Thy Self) by Socrates

    An excerpt from the poem states that, “I’ve been alive for almost 7300 days now.
    and I still haven’t figured out what it is to be truly me” This only means that the theory of Socrates really make sense. Only by knowing who you are is what would make your existence worthwhile and meaningful.

  45. Santiago, Jeter Isaac P.
    CIV195

    Socratic Method by Socrates
    It portrays on how you find your self as times goes by. Discover yourself by your own.

  46. SMITH, Allison Danielle M.
    CIV195

    The writer is having trouble figuring out everything else because he can’t even figure out himself/herself. So, I think the writer is implying to figure out yourself first before figuring out other stuff because that is the first step in life. Because when you know who you really are and got it all figured out, you can then clearly see what’s ahead of you and what you want in life, thus you can carry on and move forward. The “self” starts to live when you know what the “self” wants and really is. I can relate this analysis with the Socratic method. According to Tobias Weaver, Socrates believed that the answer to this question of how to live a good life is hidden within you as an individual. It is your responsibility to examine your beliefs, values, expectations, assumptions, and perceptions. It’s your responsibility to care for your soul. In doing so you develop your awareness of who you are as a person, and with a greater awareness comes a greater ability to question why you think the way you do. The Socratic Method has been used for thousands of years to help people rethink the way we see the world, and weed out the negative, destructive, and limiting beliefs that can choke our happiness and wellbeing from the within. Which ultimately relates to the poem.

  47. Zacarias, Sharvin H.
    CIV195

    Socratic Method by Socrates
    First know yourself, then you will begin to understand why things are as they are, and why life is as it is

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  48. Arangco, Jomar, C.
    CIV195

    It clearly demonstrates that the mind can really affect the body, and the mind can also be affected by the body.

  49. Castillo, Crystal Anne D.J.
    CIV195
    Socratic Method (Know Thy Self)- Socrates

    The self in the poem still haven’t figured out what it is to be truly their selves and the finding paradise is a metaphor for finding their selves. So, the theory which this poem is leaning forward to is Socratic method (Know thy self) by Socrates because according to him, one could not know anything without knowing one’s self.

  50. Carullo, John Carlo A.
    CIV 195
    Cartesian Dualism

    In the excerpt above, it is described that the person is lost in some part of his life and simply attempting to acknowledge everything from his surroundings; man and reality.

  51. Macalino, Gio C.
    CIV 195

    The poem demonstrates real situation of a human being which has ups and downs in our lives. The poem shows how our mind affects our body. In addition, we must know ourselves first before we learn or know something else in this world. Lastly, it will become meaningless, all of our learnings in this world if we, ourselves, do not know us as a person.

  52. Guiron, Anne Bernadette S.
    CIV195

    Socratic Method – Socrates
    The poem clearly emphasized that you will only know the meaning of your life and the value of your existence when you have fully grasp your purpose and by knowing who you are.

  53. Francisco, Justinn Charles A.
    CIV195

    Socratic Method – Socrates
    The Socratic method also known as method of Elenchus, elenctic method, or Socratic debate is a form of cooperative argumentative dialogue between individuals, based on asking and answering questions to stimulate critical thinking and to draw out ideas and underlying presuppositions. It is named after the Classical Greek philosopher Socrates and is introduced by him in Plato’s Theaetetus as midwifery because it is employed to bring out definitions implicit in the interlocutors’ beliefs, or to help them further their understanding.

  54. Aquino, Kristine C.
    CIV195

    I think we can incorporate the poem to Socrates concept of “Know Thyself”. In the poem, the speaker said that even though thousands of days have passed, and a lot of experiences the speaker went through, he still haven’t figured out his own self. This is exactly the concept of “Know Thyself” in which a person needs to know his character so that he can be aware of his own self, characteristics, and purpose.

  55. Ortiz, Niño Anton D.
    CIV195

    Socratic Method – Socrates
    The poem wants to portray that for the “self” to be able to fully understand the meaning, the importance and existence of life, it is important to examine and to know thyself first. Knowing thyself is the way for us to find the paradise where the “self” will live a meaningful life.

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